Why are there so many climbing grade systems?
Updated 1 October 2026
Climbing grew up in several places at the same time, and each place invented its own way to say how hard a climb is. By the time climbers started travelling, those systems were built into guidebooks and local habits, so they stayed. That’s why the same climb can be 7a, 5.11d, VIII or 23 depending on where you read about it.
Every area started its own scale
Most grade systems began as a local guidebook convention:
- Britain has graded climbs with words since the late 1800s (Moderate, Difficult, Severe…). As routes got harder the top end became E1, E2 and so on, and a second, technical grade was added for the hardest move.
- Germany and the Alps used Willo Welzenbach’s scale from the 1920s, which became the UIAA scale: Roman numerals, once capped at VI and opened up as climbing got harder.
- Saxony developed its own scale on its sandstone towers. It’s still used there and in the Czech sandstone areas.
- The United States grew the Yosemite Decimal System out of the Sierra Club’s classes for hiking and climbing. The decimal part was added in the 1950s at Tahquitz Rock in California.
- France settled on numbers and letters (6a, 6a+, 6b), now the most widely used scale for sport climbing.
- Australia uses a plain number scale devised by John Ewbank in the 1960s, also used in New Zealand and South Africa.
- Bouldering has two big scales: Font, from the Fontainebleau forest near Paris, and the V-scale, created by John Sherman at Hueco Tanks in Texas in the early 1990s.
They don’t all measure the same thing
Most systems rate how hard a climb is overall, which on a long route includes how pumped you get. Boulder grades rate a few hard moves close to the ground. So a boulder grade and a route grade aren’t interchangeable, even when they look alike: Font 6A and French 6a are different things. More on that in bouldering vs sport grades.
British trad grades measure two things at once. The first part (E1, E2…) is about overall seriousness: how well it protects and how far you could fall. The second part (5a, 5b, 6a…) is the hardest single move. That’s why an E1 5b and an E3 5b can share the same crux and still feel very different.
Why the same grade feels different in different places
Grades are a consensus, not a measurement. The first ascensionist suggests one, later climbers agree or argue, and the guidebook settles it. Plenty can shift that consensus:
- Rock and style. Crimpy limestone, slopey sandstone and steep tufas reward different strengths, so a grade can feel easy or desperate depending on what you’re good at.
- Local tradition. Some areas are known for stiff, “sandbagged” grades; others are softer.
- Era. Many old classics were graded long before modern shoes and training, and were never adjusted.
- Height and conditions. A reachy move or a humid day can change how hard a climb feels by a grade.
- Gyms. Indoor grades are set by each gym’s own setters and often run softer or harder than the rock nearby.
Why nobody has switched to one system
Every system is tied to decades of guidebooks, thousands of routes and climbers’ own sense of progress. Rewriting all of that would cost more than it gains, so climbers convert instead. French grades are the closest thing to an international scale for sport climbing; bouldering mostly uses Font or the V-scale.
Converting between systems
Conversion charts line systems up by how hard climbers think the grades are, so they’re approximate. Where two scales don’t line up exactly, a good chart shows a range instead of pretending. For example:
| French | YDS |
|---|---|
| 5c | 5.9/5.10a |
| 6a | 5.10a |
| 6b | 5.10c |
| 6c | 5.11a/b |
| 7a | 5.11c/d |
| 7b | 5.12b |
| 7c | 5.12d |
| 8a | 5.13b |
| 8b | 5.13d |
| 9a | 5.14d |
Use a conversion as a starting point, then check the local guidebook or ask around for how an area grades. The grade conversion chart has every system side by side, and there’s a chart for each common pair, like French to YDS and V-scale to Font.
Read more
- How to start climbing: a beginner’s guide
- Types of climbing explained: bouldering, top rope, lead, auto-belay and more
- Is climbing safe? How to climb safely as a beginner
- Bouldering grades explained: the V-scale and Font
- Sport climbing grades explained: French, YDS and UIAA
- Can you compare bouldering and sport climbing grades?
- The hardest boulders in the world (2026)
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